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Offline usedbustickets

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Re: Election and After
« Reply #60 on: June 10, 2015, 07:52:23 AM »
So nothing incorrect in what I said on both the on and off topic subjects. So why the concerns about what I choose to respond to, even if it is poor attempt by Des to play games with important subjectS, which of course is his right, even if tedious!  Like I have always said I always believe that everyone is entitled to my opinion...... Wenger Out



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Re: Election and After
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Re: Election and After
« Reply #62 on: June 10, 2015, 13:45:55 PM »
So what is the main post-election battle? Is it the negotiation between the most likely coalition partner - MHP - and the bigger AKP? Or is it the struggle between Erdogan and the Parliamentary AKP. The MHP is obviously going to make a key demand that Erdogan stops abusing the position of President of Turkey to interfere in governmental affairs (also military, justice, police, journalism, and so on). It seems unlikely that Erdogan is going swallow this and will react either directly and overtly, or deviously and covertly, to retain his powers. Perhaps sacking Davutoglu and having a rerun election will look a better option to him than giving up his unconstitutionally usurped power..

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Re: Election and After
« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2015, 18:32:47 PM »
My Moneys on another election. and another bite from UBT.  ;) :D :D :D :D

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Re: Election and After
« Reply #64 on: June 11, 2015, 10:54:28 AM »
Forget the bite at UBT but I think you are right about another election, RTE's pride will not allow for any retreat from his Sultan's ambition.

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Re: Election and After
« Reply #65 on: June 11, 2015, 11:54:26 AM »
The AKP has clarified things about the aftermath of the election.

The headline is this morning's Today's Zaman explains that the party has three "red lines" that coalition partners will be required to agree: continuation of {Erdogan's} fight against the parallel state; continuation of {Erdogan's} solution of the "Kurdish problem"; and acceptance of the absolute legitimacy of Erdogan's positition as {52%} elected President.

The Hurriyet Daily News headlined Davutoglu's statement that there are no "red lines" and, anyway, it has nothing to do with Erdogan.

Everybody clear about that then?
 http://www.todayszaman.com/national_report-ak-party-outlines-3-red-lines-for-possible-coalition-allies_384304.html
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/people-have-refused-presidential-system-demand-coalition-govt-turkish-pm.aspx?pageID=238&nID=83810&NewsCatID=338
 
 


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Re: Election and After
« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2015, 15:31:52 PM »
Interesting statement from the AKP.  Who exactly in the AKP said it is not clear, but then an even more interesting statement from Davutoglu.  This the first sign of dissent in Reg's ranks.  Is this the start of a fracture in the AKP.  Whatever the outcome I can't see Reg being too happy with his nominal number two.

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« Reply #67 on: June 11, 2015, 15:48:57 PM »
MHP, CHP and HDP should form a coalition with the first aim to reduce the 10% threshold. This will clip the wings of AKP in the next election.

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Re: Election and After
« Reply #68 on: June 11, 2015, 16:11:47 PM »
I agree in principle that could work.  Unfortunately I can't see the MHP voting for anything that would give the Kurds a permanent voice in the Turkish Parliament.

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Re: Election and After
« Reply #69 on: June 11, 2015, 16:15:50 PM »
That's true but this would be cynical coalition, with only one aim, and would not be expected to last long.




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