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Re: Madeleine McCann (again)
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2015, 13:21:51 PM »
I've read lots of the report that Kevin has mentioned and the shutters were examined and not proven to be forced open. Logically she either wandered out of the front door herself, was abducted and taken out of the front door or was indeed already dead and had been moved by someone. It's highly unlikely she was passed through the window as there would have been DNA left at the scene. However we cannot rule out the Portuguese police messing up can we?

Read the reports and you will see how odd her parents acted after she went missing:

http://www.mccannfiles.com/


The First Reactions


Here we read the first reactions from Kate and Gerry's closest family and friends, immediately after they have been contacted individually with the news that Madeleine has been 'abducted'.
 
Note how consistent the stories are that an 'abductor' gained access to a locked apartment by breaking open the shutter on the bedroom window and escaping by the front door.
 
The story changed later when it became clear the shutters on the window had not been forced, were not damaged in any way and could only be opened from inside the apartment.
 
From that point, the McCanns became convinced that an 'abductor' had entered through 'open' patio doors and escaped through the open shuttered window.
 
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, is eventually forced to admit that "There was no evidence of a break-in".
    
Gerry rings his sister, Trish Cameron, at 23:40 on 03 May 2007
    
Heart specialist Gerry McCann rang his sister Trish in Scotland after Maddy vanished from her cot placed between two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie.

Trish revealed yesterday: "He was breaking his heart, saying 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted'."

Trish said: "When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open. Nothing had been touched and no valuables taken."

"Kate came screaming back to the group crying, 'They’ve taken her, they’ve taken her'. Gerry was crying and roaring like a bull."

"They think someone must have come in the window and gone out the door with her."

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Re: Madeleine McCann (again)
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2015, 00:26:44 AM »
ok here goes

[/quote]eve she was taken....for a reason and I think they ALL know this.
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They being the Mccanns, the tapas 7  and the Government collectively.

Did Gerry Mccann know something damaging about the health effects of nuclear power?
Also Gordon Browns brother Andrew works for a nuclear power company, is there a connection?

They had government help from the off ( possibly because of Gerry s involvement with COMMARE, MI5 or 6 were also involved).

I don't understand the implication. What help are you suggesting they received from the UK government.

If my daughter had been "abducted" I would have expected the British Consul to be involved as early on as possibe.
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Help from The Government went beyond British consul, They were issued they own spokes person the role soon taken over by Clarrence Mitchell which still stands (I forget the name of the tempory one), Gerry was having regular telephone calls with Gordon Brown.
Esther Mcvey was an associate of Kate mccann, and I believe she was the one who got the ball rolling with sky news in the early hours of the 4th may.
I agree we would expect British consul help but do you think you or I would of got this much support?

I have tried to put things into prospective here and i just go round in circles.

Why are they STILL getting so much help and funding?

There are only 2 answers as far as I can reasonably see.

Mccanns are either Guilty of Madeleine's demise or not guilty.

If guilty, why weren't they suspected straight away? why did the government and other agencies so publicly get involved in supporting them.  MI5/6, Scotland yard, Government would surely know after 7+ yrs and would of either charged the Mccanns or had a quiet very (firm) word to let it go, along the lines of.... we know what you did...it would be very embarrassing for everyone involved, red faces, costs ect, you got away with it now play it down, lay low and let it all fade away quietly. The public wont notice, majority are fed up to the back teeth of you anyway.


Not Guilty and really do not have any idea what happened to her.
Then I can understand why they carry on with the search and try and keep the case going and as high profile as possible.
But I agree there are too many inconsistancies and contradictions.

still mind boggling...the whole case is a minefield , if anyone is really interested then I would suggest searching through some forums but chose carefully, I am a member of one who simply wants justice for madeleine whoever is to blame, whatever the out come, not a site that just wants to troll and vent their anger at the mccanns.

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Re: Madeleine McCann (again)
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2015, 00:44:09 AM »
I do believe there is more to the parents' involvement than has so far become apparent.

But the one simple question I would hope some of you might be able to answer for me is...

Bearing in mind that there is no doubt that the McCanns were extremely intelligent, professionally respected indivduals (as far up as to MI5 perhaps) - why would they come to the opinion that the best place to offload one of their own children would be abroad, in a place they know relatively little about, and stage the whole thing across a swimming pool from where the child is/was, while surrounded by 7 close friends?

Ok so it's a fairly long question.

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Re: Madeleine McCann (again)
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2015, 08:12:33 AM »
Bearing in mind that there is no doubt that the McCanns were extremely intelligent, professionally respected indivduals (as far up as to MI5 perhaps) - why would they come to the opinion that the best place to offload one of their own children would be abroad, in a place they know relatively little about, and stage the whole thing across a swimming pool from where the child is/was, while surrounded by 7 close friends?

You could argue, where better...

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Re: Madeleine McCann (again)
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2015, 08:50:30 AM »
Yes that is what I am asking you to do  ;)

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Re: Madeleine McCann (again)
« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2015, 09:30:05 AM »
I just did  ;)

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Re: Madeleine McCann (again)
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2015, 10:21:05 AM »

Did Gerry Mccann know something damaging about the health effects of nuclear power?
Also Gordon Browns brother Andrew works for a nuclear power company, is there a connection?


Forgive me if I am being thicker than normal but why was that a reason for Madeleine's abduction ?

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Re: Madeleine McCann (again)
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2015, 11:17:02 AM »
Gerry McCann is still alive! Silencing him by taking his child is not ever likely to work!!

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Re: Madeleine McCann (again)
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2015, 00:04:07 AM »
Expect to be shot down in flames, but here goes, whatever the rights and wrongs of leaving your children alone in an apartment, someone knows what happened to that little girl.  If either or both of the parents were involved (not a theory I subscribe to) I can only say that the grief and despair on the mothers face and the fact they have continued to try and keep their daughter's abduction in the public eye suggests they are happy to have everything about that dreadful night minutely examined.  If I was in the slightest bit guilty I would have kept my head down. However I do agree there is absolutely no point in police from this country wasting time and money on something that will never be solved.  I think it should be accepted that we can never know what happened to that little girl, very sad.

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Re: Madeleine McCann (again)
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2015, 00:22:28 AM »
I agree.  The pain of loosing a much wanted child (They had IVF) is etched all over their faces.  They did make a mistake leaving the children alone. A thing most people cannot understand and many will not forgive. A mistake that will live with them all their lives and this one mistake seems to be the reason so many people hate them and want to blame them for being involved in all sorts of unsubstantiated theories.
I don't believe for one minute they had anything do to with their daughter's disappearance.  They would never have mounted such a long and expensive search for her if they had any involvement.   The book Kate has written is to further fund the search.  Kate is a broken women who, I am sure suffers every day for the mistake she made, however, this does not make her a murderer.


I hope, one day Kate and Gerry will have peace and a conclusion to their misery. 




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