United States Election

[madmart]

Holier than though left winger

I'm intrigued to know why you think that. Why do you think that?

Do you believe in an NHS? That's about the most socialist institution there is. Do you now feel dirty?

Villain how about reasoned robust debate rather than cheap insults. You after all did start it by calling people who don't agree with you stupid.

The only sensible thing you have typed is that you are the most unpopular poster in the village.

[villain]

Villain how about reasoned robust debate rather than cheap insults. You after all did start it by calling people who don't agree with you stupid.

The only sensible thing you have typed is that you are the most unpopular poster in the village.

O.K. Given what Trump has said to get US voters to put a cross by his name, his victory legitimises his views. Abhorrent, divisive, bigoted filth has no place in a modern democracy. It's not about left or right but right and wrong. In a civilised society we are taught the difference between right and wrong, to respect each other, to know the value of honesty, the importance of integrity. Every single vote for Trump throws these values out of the window - what on earth does this teach children? The glee in which this seen as a "punch on the nose for the left" is a huge insult to those on the right  - as if to say that Trump's views are representative of that section of the political spectrum.

The gradual erosion of common human decency both in the US and here at home is something to be feared. To vote for and to celebrate a victory for someone like Trump only expediates it and I hope and pray that last nights result was an apex, but I desperately fear it's not.

Yeah, pretty bloody stupid to support that excuse for a human being.

Now: give me the courtesy of answering my question(s).

[JohnF]

The only sensible thing you have typed is that you are the SECOND most unpopular poster in the village.

There you go, fixed it for you.  Can't have someone nicking my title, you'll get my wee haters all worked up and frothy.

 

JF

[madmart]

Now: give me the courtesy of answering my question(s).

When you answer my simple one sunshine!! Rather then the mealy mouthed you don't remember whether you were for or against a referendum, before the result didn't go your way. When just like the spoilt kid you started stamping your feet then took your ball home!!

[stoop]

Trump may be the worst thing that could have happened but like Brexit it came about because of comfortably off liberals ignoring the working man.

You only have to look at Labour - now run by the liberals of Old London Town. A party totally disconnected from the very people it was set up to look after. If they vote down article 50 then they are finished in the North.

The US result came about because successive leaders have lost contact with  average Joe. The Democrats thought they could field a candidate who offered nothing different to what they had before. Trump knew exactly how to wind up support - or at least his script writers did.

[madmart]

I do seem to remember when Ronald Reagan was voted in there was much huffing and puffing from the 'liberal elite'. He is now regarded in the US generally as one of the great presidents.

I am not saying that Trump fits into that category, but as Hillary Clinton has said give him a chance to lead.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37929562

[Stopfordian]

 Well anyway, I spent 23 yrs working in the Community mental health team with the NHS. During those years I learned not only to accept what my clients were doing but also to see that they were doing it because of things that were happening in their world. Not my world or your world, theirs. Individuals voted because of what's happening in their worlds. It's done. You don't have to accept it, but you should respect it. It's called democracy and yes, democracy as most people think of it is changing, probably getting nearer to populism.
 At first I couldn't see the relevance of the NHS link but then I slipped back into work mode. 

 

[villain]

When you answer my simple one sunshine!! Rather then the mealy mouthed you don't remember whether you were for or against a referendum, before the result didn't go your way. When just like the spoilt kid you started stamping your feet then took your ball home!!

Pet names! You obviously won't mind if I call you "Cletus!!" in return.

1. Wrong thread, Cletus!! This one's "Trump", the other is "Brexit". It's even in another forum.
2. The answer to your question is in the other thread on November 3rd. Do keep up, Cletus!!

Please go to the other thread to argue why you think I've "taken my ball home", because I haven't.

Please do stop procrastinating and get on with answering my questions on this thread and the other one. Are you all really that shy?

Finally. surely that's enough cross posting.

[madmart]

When you answer my simple one sunshine!! Rather then the mealy mouthed you don't remember whether you were for or against a referendum, before the result didn't go your way. When just like the spoilt kid you started stamping your feet then took your ball home!!

Pet names! You obviously won't mind if I call you "Cletus!!" in return.

1. Wrong thread, Cletus!! This one's "Trump", the other is "Brexit". It's even in another forum.
2. The answer to your question is in the other thread on November 3rd. Do keep up, Cletus!!

Please go to the other thread to argue why you think I've "taken my ball home", because I haven't.

Please do stop procrastinating and get on with answering my questions on this thread and the other one. Are you all really that shy?

Finally. surely that's enough cross posting.

Are you a moderator now?

God help us that'll be worse than Trump being president!!

[villain]

At first I couldn't see the relevance of the NHS link

I was abused about being a "left winger", and I suppose just asked a "right-winger" what he thought of what is an obviously socialist pillar of our society.

I'd just ask if you'd prefer an NHS under State Control as it broadly is now ("Socialist"  ) or a fully-privatised NHS ("Conservative wet dream"  ) .