Holiday Let New Controls

[SteveJ]

I only let my immediate family (two daughters and their families) stay at my place when I'm not there (without charge). If I were to add their names to my tapu would that get me around all these issues?

[JohnF]

On the face of it, yes. 

You could also "rent" it to them long term at a low enough figure to fall below the tax reporting threshold - not 100% sure what the up to date figure is but it was 3,200tl per annum a year or two ago.  Given the costs involved with adding names to a tapu even if you did pay a few quid in tax you'd probably still be ahead of the game medium term.

JF

[stoop]

I seem to be getting some positive answers on the FT article page. It seems that if you only ever used it yourself and intend to keep it that way then you do not have to register. I've just asked if this includes letting close family members stay in the past or in the future as we have done this and wish to continue letting our family stay in the future. However if we have to register the property in order to do this then we might as well sell up to be honest.

[stoop]

Well according to the guy on the Fethiye Times link if you have never rented out and have no intention of renting out then you can just continue as you always have.

No need to register and no need to worry according to him.

[Neil T]

This is a quote in the FT Q& A section which supports what Stoop is saying:

"the law (2013) and the legislative amendment (November 2016) is clear; if you’ve ever rented (advertised for profit making) that means you wanted business, as far as authorities concerned. If you have not, you do not need to worry. Nobody has any right to query who your (unpaid) guest is under the new project. They are after long time tax dodgers and terrorists and it seems they have a long list of ” fishy business” operating out of turkey and but transferring profit."

This quote is from:
Doğan Şahin?

Doğan is a graduate of Selcuk University  Faculty of Education in Turkey. He lived abroad for about 20 years. He is a Professional English language translator and interpreter accredited by National Accreditation Authority of Translators and Interpreters in Australia (NAATI) and has successfully provided Contracts-Legal translation services to international official and private organizations for over 30 years.

He is registered as an expert witness at Muğla City Justice Commission. He has published four books, two of them being translations. His articles on Tourism, History and Social Life as well as Blue Cruise Holidays have appeared in many journals and newspapers.

Doğan Şahin will be happy to provide the owners with further details to deal with all legal requirements arising from the new legislation, as well as ways to lower the costs of forming a company and running a legitimate short term let business.

This is his email:gocyolu@hotmail.com

[stoop]

Yes but now the Fethiye times have deleted all the questions and answers and locked the topic!

Typical when we were getting somewhere.

[KKOB]

It's all still there.

http://www.fethiyetimes.com/property/21269-giykimbil-system-short-term-property-rentals-turkey.html

[stoop]

Yes it was locked late last night and a glitch made everything go belly up. Back up now.

I think for those worried it's important they reads the article and Dogan's answers. Then make a decision based on their previous and future position with regard to renting their property.

He seems very knowledgable and I think we can take what he says as correct.

[Ian_and_Sian]

I thought there was some light in this statement but it appears it has to be your permanent home. I've asked for clarification.

"Subsequently, as long as there is no payment involved, it is the owner(s) primary residence and there is no evidence of marketing (be it online: via a website, through social media, or by word of mouth), their families, relatives or friends are free to use the property and do not have to inform the authorities of their arrival or departure using the GIYKIMBIL System."

Stoop - I think that may be answered in the comments section. Dogan has written in answer too that same question:

'No. It is for all owners who declared to the tax office that they did not and will not use the property for rental business, whether the property is a holiday home or main residence.'

As long as that statement is right (would be good to get some official line) then it would seem that I need do nothing. I only have close friends and family staying at our apartment on just three occasions this year and we are charging no rent.

[cenk]

Be careful about close friends. Police can take them as a tenants and fine you. How can you prove that they are not tenants ? It is a big risk...