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Re: Should Shamima Begum be allowed back into Britain.
« Reply #50 on: February 18, 2019, 22:46:15 PM »
Can someone help me with this.

Where is the husband ?



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Re: Should Shamima Begum be allowed back into Britain.
« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2019, 08:50:11 AM »
These people have fled for their lives to a camp, now IS are close to full defeat. Now, if American/British soldiers and support personnel had fled to a camp in the last knockings, I have no doubt IS would have thanked them for making their job so easy and mown them all down with ease.

The rules of war should be the same for all - I would have been delighted to see the terrorists there finished off, instantly - once and for all.


If only these things were so black and white
Surely the rules of war - if such things exist- would include not attacking civilians
In all the " we will bring democracy but we are really here to steal oil" ill thought out sortees across the ME - it's hard to see any good guys when it came to mass slaughter of civilians

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Re: Should Shamima Begum be allowed back into Britain.
« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2019, 09:35:57 AM »

If only these things were so black and white
Surely the rules of war - if such things exist- would include not attacking civilians
In all the " we will bring democracy but we are really here to steal oil" ill thought out sortees across the ME - it's hard to see any good guys when it came to mass slaughter of civilians

I agree with all you say - especially in regard to civililians. But the ex-IS fighters are all seperated and lined up feeling a bit cold. Since they sneak around blowing up European city centres and children's pop concerts, why take the risk, they are warped - they are not civilians so finish them off.

If anyone disagrees with me please feel free to say, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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Re: Should Shamima Begum be allowed back into Britain.
« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2019, 10:01:07 AM »
On a personal basis I cannot see me crying myself to sleep re the loss of ISIS types

I have no time for hate filled religious throwbacks- whether they be slaughtering in the ME or propping up HMG

Again however amid the ( understandable) clamour for hellish vengeance against ISIS and their enablers and calls for the US/UK govts to stand firm now against these remnants returning  - its convenient to overlook that US/UK administration's as and when it suited were more than happy to assist and support these types across the ME

I have lost track of who the " baddies" are/were as the govt opinion changed almost daily

Bin Laden and his fellow travellers were great guys when fighting the Russkis, then baddies after 9/11, then good guys again ( no regard for 9/11 families anymore)  when the West backed  some of the exact same ISIS associates mix in Syria going as far as assisting ISIS in attacks on Syrian forces

Frankly in this whole  sorry mess there are 100s of 1000s - if not millions of innocent dead and displaced thanks to bad guys  ISIS, Alnusra,  the West, Russia etc etc -but no sign of any truly good guys

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Re: Should Shamima Begum be allowed back into Britain.
« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2019, 20:34:14 PM »
Quick update the Government have decided their policy for this amid great secrecy, here it is



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Re: Should Shamima Begum be allowed back into Britain.
« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2019, 21:08:26 PM »
At least the Home Secretary has shown a bit of backbone and revoked her passport.
Her family have the right to appeal so, this is far from over. Her lawyer will of course make plenty dosh dragging this through every court in the land, all at the British tax payers expense.
It honestly makes my blood boil

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Re: Should Shamima Begum be allowed back into Britain.
« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2019, 21:22:22 PM »
Me too Anne >:( >:( >:( - if the family were faced with the legal bill the case wouldn't even get started.

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Re: Should Shamima Begum be allowed back into Britain.
« Reply #59 on: February 21, 2019, 19:52:56 PM »
As I said earlier he's just getting the chocolate digestives, scones and tea ready for her.

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