Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Flights, Airlines and Airports => Flights to Dalaman and Turkey, Airlines and Airports => Topic started by: Highlander on March 03, 2013, 20:56:45 PM
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But it most certainly won't be to Calis !!!!!!!
I refuse to give flythomascook £13.14 short of a thousand quid for our preferred dates >:( >:( >:(
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:o shocking!!
Try Jet2 Mr H
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Or Portugal :D
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H, that is one of the reasons why we are not travelling in June (half term week) for a family of four the only flights that we could get were just short of £2,000.
Second reason is oldest daughter needs to be at home to revise for final exams but if flights had been cheaper we would probably have taken the revision with us and had a quiet week around the pool.
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OMG that's shocking H!!!!
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:o shocking!!
Try Jet2 Mr H
Thanks Anne - they are cheaper right enough but still dear.
Such a pity because I understand that all the best people are there at the time we are planning. :)
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Well for us it is a simple process. We are happy to go to Turkey for our family summer holiday and we are equally happy not to. I monitor the flights etc and when the good deal arrives I book four return seats. I then go looking for a hotel, that's easy once you have your flights booked.
For the last two years this hasn't been Dalaman or Turkey, and this year it isn't either.
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£407 for 2 weeks b&b at Oykun departing with Thomsons from Bournemouth on 14 June. But a bloody long drive from Dingwall I think!
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H, have you deleted your cookies each time before you go on to look for flights?
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Yes toky - so far.
But it's not just the flights - the cost of apartments seem to have leapt also :(
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how do you delete cookies? and why?
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I'll pm you so as not to hijack this thread
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£407 for 2 weeks b&b at Oykun departing with Thomsons from Bournemouth on 14 June. But a bloody long drive from Dingwall I think!
That's what upsets me the most Colin - why the huge difference. >:( >:( >:(
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Very briefly - cookies are used by websites to remember you - nothing bad there - cookies are (sometimes) used by holiday and flight companies to remember you and price accordingly. For example - if you search for flights, you are interested in booking flights. If you come back in two days time, you were (and are) definitely interested in booking those flights and the website would add a tenner each way or more to the initial prices quoted - that's £80 for a family of 4.
Deleting cookies takes 30 seconds, and can - really can - save you £80. Or more. Not a bad way to spend 30 seconds.
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I'm convinced by deleting cookies, flights we were checking at £278, we eventually got for £161!!!
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I'm convinced by deleting cookies, flights we were checking at £278, we eventually got for £161!!!
And to think that I once was very fond of you Toky ;)
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Aw John, sorry. Really couldn't believe our luck either but they were changing daily and a couple of times a day at that! The next day they were up to £247 again. I am a lucky person though in life and never take that for granted.
:)
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Ah toky - couldn't happen to a nicer person - I'm delighted that you got such a good deal. ;D
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But how flexible are you H? If you want to go on specific dates from Aberdeen then it isn't going to be cheap in all probability.
We have flown from Manchester several times because flights are as much as £600 cheaper for the four of us. If anyone wants to give me £600 to drive to Manchester and back I'm all for it.
Also, have you looked at package deals, similar to the one Colin posted? They can be amazingly cheaper. If it was me, rather than pay £990 for two flights from Aberdeen, I'd drive to Bournemouth - save nearly £600 and that's not including the accommodation yet?! If your accommodation would be (say) £300 - and the journey 13 hours, you are earning £69.23 an hour for driving yourselves :D
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Glad you got that in the right thread boss!!!
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Skyscanner are showing flights ex Manchester throughout June, the dearest is £115 each way + bags, so you should get returns for about £270 each all in. Its a bit of a hike down but as Scunner says its a saving of about £400.
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I have big internet problems Tokes - of all the billions of websites around the World, I can't get just one - a certain Calis Beach forum!
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Highlander, I don't know your dates but I've got flights via Bristol with Easyjet quite cheap for Easter and October this year, it does mean an overnight in Bristol but is that any worse than the drive to EDI or GLA?
e.g. Inverness-Bristol, Bristol-Dalaman, Dalaman-Gatwick, Gatwick-Inverness.
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I really sympathise with H, before I gave up the horrid work thing we had the same problems - but it was slightly cheaper then....
Many is the time we drove to Manchester and did as Scunner, calculated the savings per hour driving.
Another cheaper option we have used more recently were flights from Aberdeen to Antalya on the way out, the savings well covered the extra couple of hours transfer time.
And another saving we often had was booking the journey as two singles, TC price structure is often crazy - so yes delete cookies after every browse.
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Everyone else is getting cheaper prices than you H? do you think Calis is telling you something? ;D
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Driving from Dingwall to Manchester is a long journey. I don't know if Brenda drives, if she does not, it makes the journey even worse. Then factor in the petrol costs. So, if the flight was on Monday, travel on Sunday night would be fine, but if it returns on Monday, say later on, does H drive all night and go to work on Tuesday morning?
H works and he books, say, two weeks holiday he will have to travel earlier than normal to factor in the journey to the Airport, at least 8-10 hours to allow car parking and then the mandatory 2 hours before the flight leaves. So, if no Monday flights it may be he will have to take 2 days extra holidays for the departing journey and the return journey.
However, the worse thing is driving back when arriving in Manchester after your flight. It usually means you have spent a lot of the day travelling from Turkey and then have to face a long drive back home, possibly in the middle of the night,
We looked at travelling down to England for flights but factoring in the petrol, the long journey and the fact my husband gets a set amount of time off work and so would have to take extra days on his holidays (so less time in Turkey for our next holiday) it does not seem feasible for us.
I think the main gripe here is..Why are flights so expensive in Scotland? It seems flights in England can be great bargains and in Scotland if we have a phone app and book an Easyjet flight as soon as it becomes available this is the only way we will get cheap flights. Otherwise, as H says we are looking at £1,000 for two flights for two people.... Where is Alex Salmond when we need him? >:( :o
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Edinburgh with Easyjet?
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Thanks for all the replies
thanks amca - but still £835.96 !
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Yes H, I looked at that too as my son and his wife would like to come out for a couple of weeks, but the flights are really expensive even on Easyjet. Again you have to factor in travelling and petrol, leaving your car etc., so you are still looking at around a grand.
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The Inverness/Bristol option I mentioned earlier came to £243pp in total incl luggage - I did book a while back but worth checking?
PS not including cost of overnight in Bristol
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Peat, you are looking at £500 for flghts, the long, long journey Dingwall to Bristol
8 hours 44 minutes 540 miles. Plus you have to park your car and get to the Airport two hours before your journey, so you can write off a whole day to travel (just to the Airport). Then you have petrol money there and back and possibly two nights stay. As said before this will probably mean taking extra days holiday if you are at work and so for most of us is not feasible.desirable or cost effective. ;) :o :(
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That was the total for flights Inverness-Bristol; Bristol -Dalaman: Dalaman-London Gatwick:London Gatwick to Inverness
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Another option is to compare prices with the nearest international airport to Dalaman - no, not Antalya or Bodrum...Rhodes!
You can do a day or two in Rhodes then get the boat across to Fethiye. Don't look at it as a longer or more complicated journey - look at it as a two centre holiday :)
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just popped up on my data base is a good price from glasgow 8th june 14 nights B/B @ Kann hotel Calis includes quite good flight times with 20kg bags & transfer total £887 for 2 persons , if of interest of anyone
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Just off the Thomas Cook web site Highlander and can get return flight in June for £339.
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John, when are the best people going to be there? :) I do hope it's late April. ;)
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Just off the Thomas Cook web site Highlander and can get return flight in June for £339.
From which airport?
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Plymouth
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The reason for the difference in flight costs from Scottish airports is that British airlines planes are all registered at Gatport Airwick, thus the 'G' in the registration numbers/letters on the aircraft. The fuel costs are priced at Gatwick also. Aviation fuel is obviously more expensive at Gatport Airwick, ergo, the flight costs are more expensive the farther away the departure airport is from Gatport Airwick !! >:( >:( >:( >:(
This info from a pilot friend I met whilst taking my flying lesson, so there !! ;) P.P.License Number GT 76352998 (P).
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Flying lessons Gordy? surely all Tiger moths have been grounded ;)
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Well, spoke to my husband this evening and his take on it is.. The reason flights are more expensive from Scotland is "They have you by the short and curlys" I think Confucius said that too. ;)
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Well, spoke to my husband this evening and his take on it is.. The reason flights are more expensive from Scotland is "They have you by the short and curlys" I think Confucius said that too. ;)
He's not wrong Jacqui. ;D Just the same as when you need to book school holidays. >:(
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In October I flew from East Midlands to Edinburgh and then Dalaman that was the cheapest way.
It pays to book early I have flights from Stanstead for April £570 for three people and flights from Birmingham changing in Istanbul August just under £800 all in school holidays
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Thomas Cook have flights on Monday 8 April from Manchester to Dalaman for £82.49
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Problem solved people - we'll take the train to Manchester. Only seven and a half hours and a bargain at £ 232 - each ;)
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Glad you are sorted H.
When my brother's children were young, he always booked his flights out of Manchester (travelled down form Invergordon) . Stayed a couple of nights with us at the beginning and end of their holiday, we took them to the airport and what they saved went a long way towards their spends.
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There is always a way H happy holidays
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Well done H - Manchesters airport is a bit bigger tha inverness so try not to get lost.
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H, is that £232 including train fares? If not how much is the train fare? :)
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Can I help the last 4 posters, by adding a new format tag
[sarcasm] Problem solved people - we'll take the train to Manchester. Only seven and a half hours and a bargain at £ 232 - each [/sarcasm]
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I did think it was a joke last night as he put the "wink" after the message. However, after reading the other posts I decided to give it the benefit of the doubt and ask about the fares.
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Not as observant as you Jacqui, didn't notice the wink. :) :-[
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Me neither thank you for pointing that out mr scunner
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Yes Thank You Scunner - H's topics are getting as hard to understand as his quizzes
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I've booked our flights today from Leeds jet 2 and I daren't tell you the price but they're ridiculous! We are stuck with not only dates but also times this year. Anyway I will be thinking twice about next year. Looks like we have a long term let on our place so will consider giving it a swerve next year. The flight companies are killing the tourism trade and if I had to think about renting to make ends meet I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. It's not cost effective to rent and buy flights people may as well get a package at a hotel. Such a shame.
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It is such a shame Cavfan - Brenda and I always enjoyed meeting up with you and Shaun . ;D and who amongst us can forget that night in Chinese Breeze.
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Not surprising then that Thomas Cook have announced shop closures (195) and 2,500 redundancies. They would be better filling their planes etc. by reducing their costs to the customer. People are NOT prepared to pay short of a thousand pounds for flights and then have to add accommodation to that. This is just the start. For all that people think countries using the euro are expensive. Our trip to Benidorm for a week in January in a 4 star hotel, all inclusive, was so cheap, we couldn't believe it and the resort was NOT expensive. Wouldn't fancy going peak season but for a winter break - amazing value.
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Yes, their problems would be over if they simply sold all their holidays at a loss.
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In the scheme of things flights are cheap, I wouldn't want to walk to Calis.
Our transfers were dearer than our flight home last year.
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I don't know how you work out "In the Scheme of things flights are cheap" In mine and most of the Forum member scheme the flights are expensive and getting more so.
However, I would rather pay for a flight to Calis than go to Benidorm, sorry, but that is one place I don't want to visit even off season.
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The only thing Thomas Cook have done is reduce plane numbers and flights. This means less supply and therefore higher prices. TC will say they have got it right, and as you hardly ever see a spare seat on a TC flight these days, I suggest they have. The way people talk is like the prices are so high they are flying half empty planes because people can't afford them.
Nothing is further from the truth.
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In the scheme of things flights are cheap, I wouldn't want to walk to Calis.
Our transfers were dearer than our flight home last year.
Are you seriously saying that £ 986 is cheap :o
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Flight prices are only cheap if you happen to be one of the lucky few who can book outside of school holidays and earlier than most people know their availability.
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Flight prices are only cheap if you happen to be one of the lucky few who can book outside of school holidays and earlier than most people know their availability.
oh and don't live in Scotland
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Flight prices are brilliant for those who live in Scotland but fly from England when the Scottish schools have broken up for summer and the English schools haven't :)
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Flight prices are only cheap if you happen to be one of the lucky few who can book outside of school holidays and earlier than most people know their availability.
oh and don't live in Scotland
I'm going out of Glasgow 12th to 29th April for not much more than £300 return
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Oh it's late ;) i meant just UNDER £300 I think it was £293 and that was for two of us
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In fairness LRD it is out of season.
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£425.96 for two of us from Gatwick on 24th August coming back 9th Sept but we did book in December
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I am with you there "H" However, look on the bright side, we live in a lovely country and are very lucky, so I suppose those living in England have to have some benefits :D ;)
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No one would suggest any company selling flights or holidays at a loss BUT many years ago (showing my age folks) a man in Scotland started a business called AA Brothers. They sold booze on the basis that they sold for a small profit but sold shed loads, which they did. Effectively, the company made fortune. If one man can do it then Thomas Cook, Thomson, Jet2 and the others can apply the same formula. Every now and then a cheap flight appears but overall the price of flights ARE expensive.
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The point is that why should they own and maintain 5 planes and make a pound per passenger when they can own one and make a fiver out of each passenger. You do seem to think they are running a public service - they are actually running a business.
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I am with you there "H" However, look on the bright side, we live in a lovely country and are very lucky, so I suppose those living in England have to have some benefits :D ;)
Of course we have benefits Jacqui, but they are mainly given to immigrants thanks to our out of date politicians.
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I am with you there "H" However, look on the bright side, we live in a lovely country and are very lucky, so I suppose those living in England have to have some benefits :D ;)
If you save all the money that we English give you for free prescriptions, free hospital parking, free this, free that your flights are free so button it. Independence for Scotland - YES PLEASE.
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Free bridge tolls too Ken :D
What about all the things paid for in England with Scottish oil revenue ;)
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Found this today whilst searching package holidays for some friends of mine. Thought it might be of some interest to Highlander as the prices from Aberdeen Airport in June look pretty reasonable.
http://www.teletextholidays.co.uk/Holidays/Results?searchType=Alternative&search=true&searchId=Holiday&destinationId=10974&destinationType=Label&dateMin=06%2f06%2f2013+00%3a00%3a00+AM&dateMax=06%2f12%2f2013+00%3a00%3a00+AM&departureDate=06%2f09%2f2013+00%3a00%3a00+AM&durationMin=14&durationMax=14&flexibleDays=3&adults=2&children=0&departureId=4&boardType=8&priceMin=50&priceMax=1000&rating=345&duration=14&resort=True¤tPage=1&sort=None&itemCount=16&pageLayout=List
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Thanks so much Marggie - I'll have a look :)
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What about all the things paid for in England with Scottish oil revenue
I think you will find that thanks to Berwick on Tweed and the continuation of the border at the same angle as it strikes the coast that a lot of it is technically English oil/gas
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Chinook, No matter about the coast, the oil is in Scottish Waters.... My Husband 30 years in the Oil Industry seems to think you are speaking rubbish, but he did not put it as politely as that :o
Marggie, Thanks for that, they seem really reasonable prices for a change. :D
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[/quote]If you save all the money that we English give you for free prescriptions, free hospital parking, free this, free that your flights are free so button it. Independence for Scotland - YES PLEASE.
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I'm with you Ken - build a wall across at Carlisle (someone had that idea before - very sensible man) and leave them to it.
I always say with family and friends if they want to go you should never force anyone to stay :-)
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At least we don't meddle with the quote tags up here!
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Marggie, Thanks for that, they seem really reasonable prices for a change. :D
2 weeks bed and breakfast plus flights from Aberdeen are coming in at around £900 for two people. Highlander was looking at paying nearly £1000 for 2 flights.
September prices are similar.
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At least we don't meddle with the quote tags up here!
Lol - by the way I thought you were just doing missionary work up there and would be back like a shot once you had covered the use of cutlery :-)
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Flight prices fluctuate according to how many seats are available on the particular flight, how much interest that date is generating on the website and of course, the time of year. It's not by accident that prices are sky high once school is out. That's what most people want anyway....a holiday in high season when the days are longest and the sun is at its highest height.
If there wasn't so much interest from the public then prices would be a lot lower because the fine an airline has to pay if it misses its slot at one airport and is late on arrival at its destination, is astronomical!! Also, don't forget that a pilot is limited as to his flying hours. Those Charter jets must be kept in the air!! So, if we all stay at home for a couple of years, prices will drop but we'll all be flying scheduled and that'll be way more expensive and involve more than one flight in most cases, e.g. a flight to Dalaman would definitely incur a change in Istanbul. This is never going to happen of course.....but in view of the cost of Pilot, First Officer, cabin crew, fuel, taxes, maintainance of the aircraft, slots, air traffic control.....I could go on, and on, flights are not, in fact, very expensive.
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We were going to calis this year till we saw the prices, just booked 2 weeks full board in spain for £1300 including airport parking and private taxi in spain.
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Well actually, as of about an hour ago, we are off.
Came across a "decent" price for 14 nights B&B so bit the bullet and booked it.
Very many thanks to everyone who kept a look out on our behalf. ;D
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But where ?????????
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Inverness
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Clitheroe
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Oops sorry Ian - we're going to a small fishing village in South West Turkey - hope it's a nice place and that the beer is cheap ;D
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Very pleased you finally made it :-)
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Great news John x
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But where H?
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Typical English expats, if you aren't bad mouthing the locals or complaining about the price of Efes, you have a go at the Scots. You should read some history books and see what the Scots have done for you. We do NOT receive free prescriptions from you lot. If the UK was a decent place we would ALL have free prescriptions and free care for the elderly. GRRRRRRRRRRRR.
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If you save all the money that we English give you for free prescriptions, free hospital parking, free this, free that your flights are free so button it. Independence for Scotland - YES PLEASE.
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I'm with you Ken - build a wall across at Carlisle (someone had that idea before - very sensible man) and leave them to it.
I always say with family and friends if they want to go you should never force anyone to stay :-)
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If you save all the money that we English give you for free prescriptions, free hospital parking, free this, free that your flights are free so button it. Independence for Scotland - YES PLEASE.
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I'm with you Ken - build a wall across at Carlisle (someone had that idea before - very sensible man) and leave them to it.
I always say with family and friends if they want to go you should never force anyone to stay :-)
No free hospital parking where I go!
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Typical English expats, if you aren't bad mouthing the locals or complaining about the price of Efes, you have a go at the Scots. You should read some history books and see what the Scots have done for you. We do NOT receive free prescriptions from you lot. If the UK was a decent place we would ALL have free prescriptions and free care for the elderly. GRRRRRRRRRRRR.
Well said ray -
Bank of England -started after recieving a large loan from a Scot - thats where we started to go wrong, that man has a lot to answer for.
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Good job the Royal Bank of Scotland didn't need English money then :D
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Well actually, as of about an hour ago, we are off.
Came across a "decent" price for 14 nights B&B so bit the bullet and booked it.
Very many thanks to everyone who kept a look out on our behalf. ;D
Well done John. When will that be?