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General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Colwyn on April 10, 2013, 17:26:58 PM
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It looks like the download Ding Dong The Witch is Dead will be in the UK Top Ten this week. Should it be played on the BBC's charts programme? The radio station Capital FM has apparently "solved" the problem by removing it from its top ten list - expunging it from the record. But that's a commercial outfit which kowtows to its advertizers' wishes. What about our national broadcaster? What standard should we expect from them?
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They should report and reflect what is happening, as it is funded by us.
I know of the song, I have no idea how it goes though.
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I agree Scunner. To remove it would be tantamount to gagging the people that bought it. Not very democratic.
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Got a feeling this topic is going to carry on from a closed topic, I sincerely hope not. I think we have all expressed our opinions. cant we just move on. : :)
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This is about radio stations Des
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Well if you behave yourself this time Des I think it will have a better chance of being a discussion about principles.
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i give up.
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i give up.
crikey, someone wants to put that in the CBF Book of Records, Des gives up after one single posting...
On the subject itself, I am sure the bbc will fudge the issue, set up an internal producer led enquiry that does not report for at least a year, and the masses will be denied the song being played on the beeb. Just like the beeb ban on Relax by Frankie goes to Hollywood, which ironically was started by that smug DJ Mike Read, who came out later as a maggie supporting Tory.
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Some compromise should be arranged.
No plays of Ding Dong and no coverage of she that is dead.
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Does this mean that we are no longer allowed to play 'Bubble Witch' ?? ;) ???
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I know of the song, I have no idea how it goes though.
For someone with two young children I find that hard to believe.
JF
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Why would people spend money on a record just to be vile???? It's not the radio stations fault but those people should take a good long look at they selves.
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Why would people spend money on a record just to be vile???? It's not the radio stations fault but those people should take a good long look at they selves.
Couldn't agree more Shamless 2.
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She'll be laughing at the thought she is still influencing people and helping the economy even after her death.
Sad people who buy a record to remind them that someone has just died but it takes all sorts I guess.
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So many songs to choose from.
Shaun has just post on FB Wake up Maggie (Maggie May)
I spotted, Hermin Hermits No Milk Today
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Of course the BBC will play it. The corporation is run by loony lefties!
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A far more eloquent response than Ding Dong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8
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Look up Sir Mark Thatcher on Wikipedia.Thatcherism at it's best.Ding Dong.!!
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I was shocked to see him tonight - the older he gets the more he looks like his mum's spitting image character. Mind that cactus Sir Mark!
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I think radio one will play it, and rightly so, the song is inoffensive in itself and once again is the result of a Facebook campaign, they played rage against the machine when it was number one following a campaign. If its not played then this is no democracy!
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It seems to me that this is a very interesting form of protest and certainly a welcome antidote to the stream of gushing nonsense about the dead woman that overwhelms the air waves. Nobody was injured in its making, no damage to property, no police need to be involved and there is no cost to the public purse. If the BBC decides to censor it then, it seems to me, there would be a clear signal to those who are spending their own money to protest - "Peaceful protest doesn't work; if you want to get noticed then street rioting is the way". If it is in the charts, I think the BBC should broadcast it.
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Well said Colwyn. Thank you.
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Yes, if it’s in the charts it should be broadcast. Censorship is a whole new debate.
Perhaps the supporters should also release a song, one they think describes her legacy more appropriately . Any suggestions?
All proceeds to charity of course. It would be nice to depart with an act of charity.
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Perhaps the supporters should also release a song, one they think describes her legacy more appropriately . Any suggestions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsoa1wHJT2E
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Probably 'I did it My Way' would be the most appropriate.
Or 'A Spoon Full of Sugar'
:)
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Ho, ho, Stoop. I have a little difficulty seeing Mrs T as Mary Poppins.
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No but she certainly dished out the medicine Colwyn ;-)
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A spoonful of sugar....
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Probably 'I did it My Way' would be the most appropriate.
[/quoteProbably 'I did it My Way' would be the most appropriate.
funny you should say that Stoop, I was looking at this last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1jY5fYjV-U
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I think the suggestions for an alternative tribute song can now be closed .... Nichola's suggestion cannot be topped.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1jY5fYjV-U
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Now, now, Amca - let's keep this democratically open. Actually I don't think "I Did It My Way" is a suitable choice. I would have to retract what I wrote on this forum some while ago.
Which was - that it seemed to be a general rule that the most tediously dull, boring conformists who had throughout life followed-the-crowd, fallen-in-line, were devoid of any spark of originally, had the imagination of a dead frog and were, overall, utterly grey and drab were assured to chose "I Did It My Way" as their funeral exit song.
Whatever might be said about Thatcher - and I have plenty - I don't think you could describe her as dull.
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I must say - and I make no apologies to anyone, get over yourselves - that the anticipation of her croaking was far better than the actual event.
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They should be allowed to celebrate the fact that the witch is dead by playing the song this is a democracy with free speech.She was an evil influence and brought the country to its knees,she weakened hearts minds and spirits of many men and society still reaps the evil results today.
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Oh and to further legitimise her actions they allow a state funeral !Tax payers money no doubt,that is insult to injury - "Ding Dong the Wich is Dead"
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Evil is a ridiculous comment!
And she isn't having a State funeral!
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It might not be a state funeral but its costing us a tidy penny, lets not split hairs on state or not its certainly going to be " a bit of a do"!
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And why is she being transferred onto a gun carriage on the way? She hasn't served in our armed forces or anything gun carriage related.
They should load her onto it and push it into the Argentinian Embassy :D
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It might not be a state funeral but its costing us a tidy penny, lets not split hairs on state or not its certainly going to be " a bit of a do"!
Quite right too! :)
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Taxpayers hard earned again,wasted on her
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Liverpool fans banner for game this weekend.
https://twitter.com/CalGamble1878/status/322426985307578368/photo/1
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I must say - and I make no apologies to anyone, get over yourselves - that the anticipation of her croaking was far better than the actual event.
Wow!! That's a long name for a song!!
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I'm struggling with line two, I wish I hadn't ended that with "event"...
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.......................... spent?
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Hang on I know a bloke in Calis called Levent.
He's going to be in a song.
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hahaha ;D in a song about thatcher...
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Yes, he came down from Datça
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Well I did not really want to comment on the subject of Thatc her, so I won"t (will not ) but IMHO she was fickle, fact. (was that a quote" ;)
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She spent her last years living "rent free" at the Ritz,like most pensioners do. When my parents sadly passed away I didn't ask the neighbours to pick up the bill for their funerals and I'm not a multi millionaire about to inherit many more millions.But perhaps her kids are different.
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She spent her last years living "rent free" at the Ritz,like most pensioners do. When my parents sadly passed away I didn't ask the neighbours to pick up the bill for their funerals and I'm not a multi millionaire about to inherit many more millions.But perhaps her kids are different.
Here we go again her 'last years' was actually from Christmas after she had an operation.
Don't miss a chance to big it up though will you?
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Ah, but how much would a nursing home have cost? Many less well off pensioners and their families would have had to spend thousands of pounds for a similar time in care.
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Well perhaps the Barclay Brothers saw an opportunity to help a friend in need.
It's none of our business as they own the place. It isn't State owned. None of us contributed any tax towards her stay.
Are you all saying that none of your own relatives should be looked after by someone who is prepared to pay for it?
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the anticipation of her croaking was far better than the actual event.
So you didn't get invited to a street party either, eh?
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Stoop can you ask the Barclay Bros to pick up the funeral bill.?
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This is about radio stations Des
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Stoop can you ask the Barclay Bros to pick up the funeral bill.?
Why? I'm quite happy to have my taxes help pay for it. Rather pay for that than all the drunks clogging up A&E every weekend.
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The Director General of the BBC has said that, personally, he finds that buying this track is "rather tasteless" but there could be "editorial reasons" for broadcasting it. It reminded me of Tom Lehrer's Wikipedia page, He chose his own favourite reviews of his work. The first of these was from the the New York Times: "Mr Lehrer's muse is not fettered by such inhibiting factos as taste". Good for him. I have just bought a CD by him and can confirm that it is true.
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They can play it for me. Never ever listen to the dross on Radio 1 and most of the kids who listen won't have a clue what it's all about anyway.
I think it's rather sad though that grown-ups are buying a song to 'celebrate' the death of another human being.
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I am rather puzzled by this business of things being "sad". Do you mean that it makes you feel sad or is it that the people buying the track are sad? Perhaps they were playing it at their jolly street parties where they were having a lot of fun and weren't sad at all - but some people complained about that as well!
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To confirm Colwyn - I think the grown ups spending their hard earned cash to buy the song are indeed sad individuals who probably need to get a life.
It also makes me, personally, rather sad that there are people out there who will buy any song to celebrate Margaret Thatcher's, or indeed any person's death.
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They are to play it according to the latest news and they should.
The thing I’ve noticed is some who agreed with or were less affected by Margaret Thatcher’s policies are surprised at the intensity of the emotions of those who were greatly affected by them.
If you lived through these times it was obvious there were communities devastated by these actions and they are entitled to feel how they feel.
Also how the venom seems to be coming from those who supported her towards those who have different opinions to them. The media is full of outrage at the disrespect.
You cant tell people what to think and feel.
Yes, they have been waiting for this celebration. The mourners will celebrate her life and her death will be celebrated at parties throughout the night.
Let’s not rewrite history, it happened.
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Bad decision Radio 1. Rioting it is then. >:(
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To enlarge on SP's comment. Head of Radio 1 has said it won't play the track "in full". The damned thing is only 51 seconds long in total. As someone said many posts ago - BBC fudge. Shame on them.
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BBC capitulate.
Part of track to be played in background during the news.
I believe the track is 53 seconds long and BBC playing part of it !
Pick of the Pyongyang Pops !
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Not playing the whole 50+ seconds is far more effective - look at the extra publicity knocking 20 seconds or whatever off has caused. Once again the BBC takes a controversial story and makes it a bigger controversial story.
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Just heard Radio 1 controller explaining what will happen on Sunday.
When it gets to the DingDong part of the chart, the DJ will hand over to a news journalist.
S/he will explain that there has been a campaign to promote the song and that there are different view points about the lady in question. And more.
Somewhere in this there will be a 3 or 4 second clip of the song.
When asked if a similar pro Thatcher campaign takes a different song into next week's chart, what be the BBC response ...... he did not have an answer.
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I can't help but think that "we" the population, are to blame for it not being played, people are so easily offended, upset and ready to complain at the slightest thing that nobody dare do anything to offend. I'm disappointed that its not being played. The chart has always been the people's choice of music, remember when laurel and hardy were number one? ( I bought that single!!) if that is the people's choice then that is what should be played. I don't like Beyonce but if someone chooses to spend 69p downloading a track of hers to get it to number one, then so be it. Viva democracy!
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Same BBC that didn't want the fuss to expose one of their own as a paedophile, no backbone and we were assured that the Savile incident would result in a spine being put in - but same cowering jellyfish again. If they stopped making the news and started reporting it...
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Although I am disappointed with the BBC for this, specifically the Radio 1 Controller, I have some empathy with what Scunner said about the propaganda outcome. Some people have derided or deviled the street parties and the buying of this track as pointless or sad. But I think these acts have already made my life a little better. When I turn on my TV or radio I haven't had listen to gushing drivel from pompous talking heads telling me that "The whole nation is in mourning" (no it damned well isn't) or "Everyone is saddened by this tragic news" (no they damned well aren't) and similar claptrap. Of course there is still claptrap about the protest being from a tiny or mindless or sad minority (how people enjoying their jolly parties in the street can be termed "sad" is beyond me) but at least it is has shifted the ground of discussion from the anodyne "she was a divisive force" which makes her sound like Marmite (some like, some don't, it is a matter of taste) to a recognition that many people loath her to the core and they don't have short memories and won't be sushed by feeble appeals to respect or good taste.
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Well said Colwyn I totally agree.
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Brilliant Colwyn. Fully agree. I come from an area of the country that can safely be called a Tory stronghold and in the 80s, when I was a teenager, I used to go on marches and do my bit to protest what I saw happening. I was a pretty lone voice in my area at the time and was probably stronger and braver than I am now but I'm proud and glad I did it. I've just been told on Facebook by a friend that perhaps I should have protested at the time rather than now and I was able to say "I did." I don't now want to be told by the media and a lot of other people that I should suddenly pretend to like her or respect what she did. I don't and I don't. I bought that song and I'm proud of it.
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A bad call by the BBC, typical fence-sitting,playing 5 seconds is laughable.I really hope the funeral is not disrupted because of the way it would reflect on the UK's reputation but the millions of people that were hurt and badly affected by her actions should be allowed express their revulsion of her in a public way.The BBC's decision is an attempt to stifle that expression. :( :(
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Ha ha. - it seems the real winners here - Time Warner are considering requests to put all the profits from the song towards a memorial for Mrs T.
That would be rather ironic.
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Ha ha. - it seems the real winners here - Time Warner are considering requests to put all the profits from the song towards a memorial for Mrs T.
That would be rather ironic.
Must admit now thats a clever move. Round 2..........Thatcherites LOL
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Yes, Stoop heard that this morning on Sky News. So, the more people that buy it the better as they will be paying for a memorial... Really funny...
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Well, now that the opposing sides have chosen what they will be singing next Wednesday we can concentrate on other important matters. It is a longstanding British tradition that, when someone in the public eye dies, this is quickly greeted by flurry of what are called "sick jokes". Recently people have been telling me that when any human being dies, whatever you think of them, they are deserving of respect and their passing should be observed in good taste taking into account the feelings of the bereaved family. So I looked back at what CBF members had to say about the death of Osama bin Laden. Guess what? Very little sign of respect and no concern at all for the feelings of his family. (Of course, it might be excused that Mr Laden was not a "human being". But this would be a cheap and silly wisecrack and I eshew it). What the thread did have though was an almost instant stream of sick jokes. Now I don't tell sick jokes; in fact I don't tell jokes at all. But there have to some who do. What has happened to them? Surely the hatred of Thatcher hasn't quieted the jocular side? Now that would really be disgraceful.
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I have to admit I haven't seen any yet Colwyn. Maybe I mix with nice people on the forums and on my FB account? Or maybe they are scared of a backlash?
I did expect more from the funny people but maybe they are too busy celebrating to write jokes?
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I confess to hearing a few, I am one of the sicko's who find jokes funny whatever the subject matter, be it Maggie T, Jimmy S etc. I choose not to post on the forum because they are not to all tastes and I understand that. Mrs B finds them disrespectful and often wonders why I am chuckling to myself when I am reading such texts from my like minded pals.