Cement Factory Urgent help required

[pookie]

I totally agree that this bickering isn't helpful, but to support Scunner too, the Agent that we bought our property through (over two years ago), did not at that time know about the plans.  He has become a firm friend, and when we told him of the situation - having read Fi's threads last year - he was as shocked as the rest of us.  He attends the meetings, keeps me updated from the Turkish view point, and is an ethical business man, proud of Turkey and sees it as in everyones best interest to do what he can to advertise and support.  He does not use Urantas cement and he DOES advise possible buyers of the situation.  It deeply hurts me, that due to his lack of English, he would not be able to respond to this thread and defend himself against these generalist accusations.  Therefore I have done it for him.  Not all turks are money grabbing as has been suggested and I am offended that people can suggest so.  Take your time, see what is happening and get to know the Turkish people a little better....

But now back on thread......Fi, all the letters gone off, we (sadly !), don't know many influential people or move in circles that may be particularly helpful, but will do all we can ....Its not over until the fat lady sings......![!]

[Scunner]

Are Chris Tippett and Elaina married to each other? If not it was a great opportunity missed for both of them. Two bigoted racists from the same part of the world who both moved to the same area abroad to roundly insult their new hosts from within their own country.

Ah well, as you say - this bickering doesn't help  

[elaina]

quote:Originally posted by Scunner

Are Chris Tippett and Elaina married to each other? If not it was a great opportunity missed for both of them. Two bigoted racists from the same part of the world who both moved to the same area abroad to roundly insult their new hosts from within their own country.

Ah well, as you say - this bickering doesn't help  

I thought this forum was for free speech and did not expect to be insulted every time I post a comment.  I have twice now been called a racist and people who know me personally know different.  I have posted my comments based on my own experiences of purchasing a property in Turkey and I have never even mentioned the name of any estate agents there and I have not insulted you.  I know you are the owner of this forum but it does not give you the right to make personal insults - I don't suppose you are perfect none of us are but you seem to think you are.

[Gorgeous_bird]

Just to remind all this is what the fight is about not estate agents. This thread has stuck with me ever since I saw the picture (particularly the last one) {A Link to an old CBF topic was here - no longer available}16371

[mike A]

I have been reading this post with some interest as Uzumlu is one of the places I used to visit regularly to escape the heat and dust of Fetiye. To visit the old lady with the lace shop and have the children spoilt rotten by her, to visit the mosque then pop down to the market square to buy my annual bottle of  pomegranate sauce, and to sit in the square, surrounded only by Turks was always a joy, the most important thing for me was the peace and beauty of the place and the fact that there were no tourists, Uzumlu as it is now is not the Uzumlu of my past, its peace and beauty has now been compromised by all the new housing, has it occurred to anyone that a lot of Turks might welcome the cement factory as a way of providing jobs for Turks who do not want to be forced into the service industries catering for the part time Brits with second homes, Elains distain of the locals is disturbing and should realize that the needs of the Turks come before hers, as for losing money on her property, as with all investments, they can go down as well as up.

[carlan]

Over several threads I've noticed that a lot of the CBF wit and laughter has been replaced by a lot of bickering and backbiting, this is such a shame, is it PST? (pre season tension) or maybe something in the water! Whatever the reason, it has brought a new face to the forum[!] that doesn't fit in!!
(JMO)

[elaina]

quote:Originally posted by mike A

I have been reading this post with some interest as Uzumlu is one of the places I used to visit regularly to escape the heat and dust of Fetiye. To visit the old lady with the lace shop and have the children spoilt rotten by her, to visit the mosque then pop down to the market square to buy my annual bottle of  pomegranate sauce, and to sit in the square, surrounded only by Turks was always a joy, the most important thing for me was the peace and beauty of the place and the fact that there were no tourists, Uzumlu as it is now is not the Uzumlu of my past, its peace and beauty has now been compromised by all the new housing, has it occurred to anyone that a lot of Turks might welcome the cement factory as a way of providing jobs for Turks who do not want to be forced into the service industries catering for the part time Brits with second homes, Elains distain of the locals is disturbing and should realize that the needs of the Turks come before hers, as for losing money on her property, as with all investments, they can go down as well as up.

I have no distain with the locals and have many friends in Uzumlu but I want to know how I am racist when I had a Turkish boyfriend for over 5 years who I loved and trusted but who ripped me off for £100K to start up a business - stupid - yes - racist no.  I even lost my job for god's sake.  How would you lot feel!  Happy -no - I don't think so. But to my credit I have tried to pick up the pieces and I still love Turkey and the majority of its people but the few spoil it for the majority.

[mike A]

the Turks are money driven and would do anything for a fast buck - hit them where it hurts - in their pocket!

Elaina, I do not believe you to be a racist as you would probably not be in Turkey if you was, but you must see that the above statement might lead people to think that,
especially any Turkish members of this site. You have been judged by your choice of words and thats no ones fault but yours.

[elaina]

quote:Originally posted by mike A

the Turks are money driven and would do anything for a fast buck - hit them where it hurts - in their pocket!

Elaina, I do not believe you to be a racist as you would probably not be in Turkey if you was, but you must see that the above statement might lead people to think that,
especially any Turkish members of this site. You have been judged by your choice of words and thats no ones fault but yours.

I was lied to and deceived for over 5 years and yes, Tinkerman I kept my mouth shut I had to and if it were not for my friends and family I would have lost everything all for the love of a country and its people - racist - I do not think so.  I too remember the old Uzumlu and how very different it was - please do not try to teach me to suck eggs.

[The Crinklies]

Please lets keep the fighting to the purpose for which this thread was intended, the fight against the Cement Factory!!

Sue