Brown is an Idiot, Vote for New Ideas

[barry44544]

Only river of blood I ever saw was when Maggie sent the police to bash up the miners...so much for Ennoc's wise words.

[tinkerman]

it's Enoch!

[stoop]

quote:Originally posted by Scunner

Yes, took assets worth billions that we all owned and sold them ridiculously cheap to people who often sold on at huge personal profit. Such stripping of national assets can only happen once, it's all gone now.

You mean like selling all our gold stocks at rock bottom prices - classic Brown - the man who can save the world from recession:D

[stoop]

quote:Originally posted by Scunner

The most important point is to ask who in the last 100+ years has done more for the quality and standard of life in the UK - the unions or the Conservative party. It certainly isn't the Conservative Party - if the union movement and the Labour party had never actually happened, whether you like it or not, we'd still be dying of exhaustion in a ditch through making high stone walls surrounding our master's stately home.

The Conservative beliefs would have settled for that, had they been in power for the last 100 years we would have had 100 years of stagnant rule where the rich do indeed get richer and the other 99% are irrelevant commodities.

Knocks that theory for six:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264709/In-13-years-Labour-richest-got-richer.html

[Scunner]

Don't be ridiculous. My post dealt quite clearly with the last 100 years. Your link knocks nothing for six.

[Jacqui Harvey]

It was not just in Maggie days that we saw industry closing. In Tony Blairs reign we saw Dyson going to Malaysia with the loss of 800 jobsc Royal Doulton moving to Indonesia  and the Waterford/Wedgwood Group going abroad.   The most telling move abroad has been all the British Company Call Centres that have moved to India to save money... All done under Blairs term as P.M.
Getting away from Industry I always remember Blair saying he would get rid of Prescription Charges, but as soon as he was elected Prescription charged just rocketed. I think they were under £1 when Blair got in, they are now £7.20 per item.
I voted for Tony hoping things would change for the better!!

[Scunner]

There is a huge difference between national industries closing down and a greedy vacuum cleaner inventor shifting production to the Far East. He does make me laugh, James Dyson - on his advert he shows us how a ball obviously makes a vacuum cleaner far more manoeuvrable than the traditional type. Inspired from a man who has been in the industry for ages and took 25 years to work that out  

[Bluwise]

quote:Originally posted by Scunner

I am a traditional Labour voter but am more anti-Tory than pro-Labour. To keep Cameron out this time it looks like I'll have to vote SNP as Labour haven't a hope here.

I had a strange feeling tonight, that the party closest to my actual views is now UKIP, which might be worrying for me.

Smaller parties representing our views is possibly the case for many voters but whilst the likes of the BBC ensure it is a 3 horse race by not allowing equal "airtime", it is almost impossible for UKIP or others to gain some exposure.
The media have gone on and on about the 3 main parties not having anything between them yet they stuck with only them throughout the staged debates.  Several people I have spoken to have used the BBC or Telegraph questionnaires to see which party reflects their views best - and yes, UKIP seems to be a popular fit.

[stoop]

quote:Originally posted by Scunner

Don't be ridiculous. My post dealt quite clearly with the last 100 years. Your link knocks nothing for six.

Yes but this lot have managed in 13 years what it would have taken the Tories 100 years to achieve!

[Colwyn]

quote:Yes but this lot have managed in 13 years what it would have taken the Tories 100 years to achieve!

Now that is impressive efficiency.