visa

[bunny4jeff]

quote:Originally posted by Scunner

Why is it discriminatory? If it is the British only who are using the tourist visa system to get round purchasing residency, then it is in direct reaction to that. I'm not aware of any other nationality doing this in any great numbers.

Sorry, Scunner, but that's not an answet to my question, just an opinion you have formed about the British. I just think that it would be fairer if all other countries that require tourist visas (and some are outside Europe) should be subject to the same rules. Otherwise nobody knows where they stand, and people will have to bombard their various Embassies or Home Offices to find out. As for it being mostly Brits who are to quote you " If it is the British only who are using the tourist visa system to get round purchasing residency" then you need figures to back up what you are saying. Brits are not the only people who are doing this in Turkey. This rule should apply to all foreigners who have to obtain tourist visas to enter Turkey. This is all I'm saying.

[Scunner]

I don't need figures to back up an opinion. I don't know how many metres high Kilimanjaro is but my opinion is that it's quite a high mountain. If figures are important you surely must have some to back up your own opinion that it is discriminatory against Brits?

I have been on the day trip to Rhodes many times and across to Meis a few times. I have never noticed, overheard or spoken to anyone other than Brits on either crossing route.

[Ovacikpeedoff]

Every country in the world has rules and regulations on visas. The UK does not treat all nationalities the same. If you come from the USA you do not require a tourist visa to enter the country. Therefore why should Turkey be any different to any other country.

I am not 100% sure but I read somewhere that it is not necessary for Turks to have to pay for visas to enter Germany and Holland.I think there is a reciprocal agreement with Dutch and Germans entering Turkey.

At the end of the day the law is the law and if you do not like it then you can always leave.

[janmack]

quote:/
At the end of the day the law is the law and if you do not like it then you can always leave.

Oh that's alright then.  UK owners on our complex, any complex, non complex homes, who were encouraged to buy by Turks, now can only spend 6 months in the property they paid their hard earned cash for...unless they apply for residency.  Great innit.

[Scunner]

I don't think I agree with Mr Peedoff on that one  

Just because it is the law doesn't make it right - it is legally correct but it will definitely cause problems to many - and this is in the wake of interest on savings plummeting, electricity prices rising, same for meat, and of course a doubling of the cost of residency in 5 odd years. This is why I think that the compromise should be a vast reduction in the residency costs to move people from island hops to legal residential status. Maybe even to scrap the fee altogether, or just charge for the book.

The British who arrogantly lecture the Turks on how they are the saviours of the local economy are entirely wrong. Nobody starved before it became a hotspot for fleeing Brits. I remember when seeing a Brit was something of a novelty, especially in winter. Seeing a new car in Calis was almost unheard of, seeing a car in January was quite rare

The whole point is this. Life is more comfortable for all in the area, Brits and Turks, in 2010 compared with 2003. What may happen is that the official figures that presently are brought out to show how many foreigners made Fethiye their home will soon enough show how many have left. Addressing the residency costs now will keep a good number of people from leaving - because once they've gone they've gone and they won't be coming back.

When that happens we'll return to 2002 where there was only enough winter trade for one bar to open. Not the end of the World and I'm sure everyone left behind will cope - the Turks are without doubt the most resilient and adapting people I have met - but I'll tell you something, if it heads back to 2002, all those BMW X5's will have to go back

[valleyboy]

quote:Originally posted by loz

quote:Originally posted by friar tuck

So please excuse me if I have this wrong but I am rather OLD,I had the new visa stamp when I entered in June (6th0 so when I return in September do I have to purchase a new visa, I have only used 30 of my 90 days.
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If you go to Turkey on 1st September you will only have 4 days left on your original visa (I don't think you will only want to stay for 4 days) then you will need another visa.
Now assuming that your original stay was for 2 weeks (14 days stamped exit visa on passport), this leaves you 166days remaining out of the new 180day rule.  

You will still need a new stamp on entry (£10) in September.


(it is still a bloody debacle)

I thought I had this straight in my head, but with each post I get more confused; the way I thought it would go FT is that you would have a period of 180 days from 6th June, that would be to the 2nd December 'ish (too late in the evening to check my sums !!) - you used 30 days up and would therefore be able to re-enter a total of 60 days between whenever you left Turkey until 2nd Dec.(i.e. 180 days after the initial issue of the visa ), is this correct ??,

PLEASE HELP as I am in a very similar situation we came out on the 5th June for 30 days and are returning for 2 weeks 27th September, I assumed by other posts I have read that our visa would still be valid and we would have 60 days left to use  [?][?][?]

[Julesp]

im not too sure so do not quote!
BUT I think also Indian visa the same They are doing it to combat Terrorism Too many people entering and leaving the country on tourist visas to make terroism  Maybe Turkey is following  these other countries

[brianthegardener]

a further up date ......

http://kalkan.turkishlocalnews.com/portal/kalkan-news/86109-update-on-new-turkish-visa-requirements

[peecee]

Totally agree with Scunner's last post.
Like a lot of expats I have money in the bank and use the interest to live.  I also pay the Govt. quite a bit in tax for the privilige.  Certainly more than the cost of the residency permit per year.
The way things are going here at the moment, cost of living rises etc., IMO turkey is heading for the same cost of living as UK. Before anyone starts on about council tax etc the cost of running my car is about the same as UK council tax.  On average 500/600tl per month.
Like everyone else I've felt the pinch of interest rates dropping and there is no sign of them shifting.  And the bank believes if they did it would only ever go up to 10%.
If I'm going to be poor I'd rather be poor in the UK where I, at least, would have the benefit of health care etc.  Here you're entitled to nothing.
The cost of residency is going to have a catastrophic effect on pensioners who, perhaps, only have their pensions to live.  2/3 years ago it was adequate, now it isn't.  And, of course, they've invested in houses here that they can't sell for love nor money.

Financially the Govt are shooting themselves in both feet.  And, as Scunner says, the Fethiye we all know (and have spent a LARGE amount of money in) will die.  As will Bodrum, Marmaris and all the other expat areas.
Some people will just not be able to afford the new residency costs.  If there is a petition going then I for one, will definitely sign it.  And contact the UK govt. and ask them what the hell they are doing to help expats.  Reciprical my arse[!]

[starman™]

You can not have one rule for all when it comes to tourist visas. Every country has different entry rules for different citizens. Some have to pay and some dont. Some get 90 days and some get 30 and some can not even get VOE visas and have to get them at the Turkish consulate to be able to fly to Turkey in the first place.
Also Istanbul airport is still giving the normal 90 day visas to Brits and none of the visas issued as of yesterday state the 180 day rule. Just like many things, the Turkish authorities are still perfecting the art of confusion.