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Offline Scunner

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A Real Leader, Perhaps Forseeing the Turkey of Today
« on: March 21, 2014, 18:26:14 PM »
“Those who use religion for their own benefit are detestable. We are against such a situation and will not allow it. Those who use religion in such a manner have fooled our people; it is against just such people that we have fought and will continue to fight.”

― Mustafa Kemal Atatürk





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Re: A Real Leader, Perhaps Forseeing the Turkey of Today
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2014, 19:44:49 PM »
Sadly, most of what this man, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk achieved in the name of  the country and people of Turkey, is being speedily torn to pieces by the relentless, self-centred vision of a religiously bigoted despot, who is determined to return the country to the dark ages. Unfortunately, I personally, cannot see who could possibly prevent this from happening, as I believe that the chances of the imminent local elections being fairly conducted are remote indeed.  >:(

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Re: A Real Leader, Perhaps Forseeing the Turkey of Today
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2014, 20:25:08 PM »
What a man of vision and foresight.
the present incumbent is destroying Turkey.

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Re: A Real Leader, Perhaps Forseeing the Turkey of Today
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2014, 22:29:02 PM »
great post Gordon A. so true. will it ever change? hope so but doubt it.

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Re: A Real Leader, Perhaps Forseeing the Turkey of Today
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2014, 00:23:08 AM »
I believe that the chances of the imminent local elections being fairly conducted are remote indeed.  >:(

Out of curiosity, when do you believe (in TR) any elections in recent years have been conducted fairly? 

JF

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Re: A Real Leader, Perhaps Forseeing the Turkey of Today
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014, 16:02:47 PM »
I really hope this current government does not destroy the Turkey I know and love.

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Re: A Real Leader, Perhaps Forseeing the Turkey of Today
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014, 16:54:54 PM »
I believe that the chances of the imminent local elections being fairly conducted are remote indeed.  >:(

Out of curiosity, when do you believe (in TR) any elections in recent years have been conducted fairly? 

JF

Your question is very interesting JF, but not pertinent at the present time, as elections in in the past are just that, in the past. The result of the upcoming elections, if Erdogan's party comes out as victors, are going to mean a total "sea-change" in the way that Turkey, and it's people are  politically, legally, and religiously, governed.
Another way to answer your question; how can we , in our own country, be assured that the results of any elections held in the U.K. are beyond reproach ?? If you, or anyone else, is naive enough to believe that the present method of accounting for a true result in our voting system is infallible, and not open to "massaging" of the figures, dream on !!

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Re: A Real Leader, Perhaps Forseeing the Turkey of Today
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2014, 17:05:43 PM »
Gordon. do you have any specific allegations against the UK electoral system or do you just enjoy flinging the accusation of "naive" about?

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Re: A Real Leader, Perhaps Forseeing the Turkey of Today
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 17:37:30 PM »
How about this one Colwyn.

All the way from suburban Surrey.


http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/elections-not-been-true-fair-6838266

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Re: A Real Leader, Perhaps Forseeing the Turkey of Today
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 18:12:27 PM »
I agree that postal voting has been, and continues to be, a cause for concern. I've been trying to find out what percentage of all votes are postal but without success so far.




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