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Offline BernieTeyze

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Re: Are You Still Going?
« Reply #330 on: August 04, 2016, 22:48:16 PM »
I feel you Highlander, so far this year, the death of two cousins on separate occasions,my daughter setting the date and booking the venue for her wedding, despite speaking to her on the phone the day she did it . I think it's flipping  disrespectful. Especially as the people concerned had to use their phone to post the messages..gggrrr.. >:(



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Re: Are You Still Going?
« Reply #331 on: August 04, 2016, 23:22:36 PM »
I feel you Highlander.......

Ooh you are awful - but I like you  ;)  ;)  ;)

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« Reply #332 on: August 07, 2016, 17:52:38 PM »
We have been talking this over (and over) for a week now and have finally decided, reluctantly and very regretfully, to give Turkey a miss next year. I guess we have visited Turkey 25 times or more in the last 20 years. It will feel odd not to be going next year. But the country's human rights abuse has just gone too far for us. I appreciate it will be different for those who own property there and, more so, for expats. But as holiday-makers we can go anywhere in the world we want. A great deal of the holiday experience is eager anticipation of your visit; not muddied by feelings of guilt at visiting such a country.

I know that I won't see signs of the current brutality in the resorts and that the people who make a living there are not to blame for the horrible regime (unless they voted AKP and there aren't many like that in the South West). But I know about it and cannot obliterate that knowledge. I also know that when I first visited Turkey in 1997 over 30,000 people had already been killed in the civil war in South East. But we had a civil war in our own country at the time and excesses, on both sides, have to be understood in that war context. Today we have widespread, state-sponsored, violence against all oppositional forces in Turkey and blatant denial of human rights everywhere. It is, of course, a subjective opinion - it's about how you feel about a place - and we feel we can't stomach it.

I shall still be following what is happening in Turkey closely. I hope we may be able to say we can visit in 2018 because reforms have been made. I am sure this forum will continue to be a valuable resource in gaining knowledge and interpretation. These are sad times for Turkey.

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Re: Are You Still Going?
« Reply #333 on: August 07, 2016, 18:19:38 PM »
Sad to read Colwyn, although I do admire you having good the courage of your convictions. Happy Holidays to you and Mrs C wherever you choose to travel next. :-[   :)

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Re: Are You Still Going?
« Reply #334 on: August 07, 2016, 19:40:05 PM »
Quite busy around noon at Calis market today.
Mostly Turks, only a few holidaymakers though.






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Re: Are You Still Going?
« Reply #335 on: August 07, 2016, 20:19:48 PM »
Just a thought - I wonder if anyone has not holidayed in the Fethiye area due to the possibility of earthquakes.

As I said, just a thought.


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« Reply #336 on: August 07, 2016, 20:27:09 PM »
Very quiet Hamlet, thank you for your photos.  :D

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Re: Are You Still Going?
« Reply #337 on: August 07, 2016, 20:30:46 PM »
Just a thought - I wonder if anyone has not holidayed in the Fethiye area due to the possibility of earthquakes.

As I said, just a thought.



Good point Highlander. Have never given it a thought, even though we are well aware of the possibility of earthquakes.

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« Reply #338 on: August 07, 2016, 22:42:34 PM »
We were in Calis during an earthquake.  I was lying by our pool and Phil was in the house.  I heard this rumbling and thought it was a big digger coming up the road, then it got louder and the pool water started to slosh up an down and the ground was moving. Phil ran out of the house into the garden.  It was all over in about 30 seconds, but t was scary.  However, the people in the end house, who were renting it for the week all stood under the veranda.  Phil shout to them to all move out into the garden, the did, but we were amazed were they stood.  It was quite an experience, but has not coloured our decision to return.

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Re: Are You Still Going?
« Reply #339 on: August 07, 2016, 22:55:55 PM »
Sadly I don't particularly think I would avoid a holiday destination because of people getting arrested or other human rights abuses. Callous as that sounds I do strongly believe that it is up to the people to address or change their political situation. I have every admiration for Colwyn arriving at this decision and as is often the case with him, I read his posts and wonder if I should be more like him.

I do however have to decide the best destinations for us and for now Turkey is still our October tradition. I have a slight feeling that it is a tradition that won't last too many more years - a feeling I can't fully explain. Things can change very quickly from Octobers to Octobers.




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