Military Coup in Turkey??

[nichola]

In answer to Phil's question. One bring back capital punishment. Two issued extradition documents for Gulen and other individuals from the Gulen movement.

And what Colwyn said ☺

[nichola]

Latest news

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-coup-pm-suspends-annual-leave-for-over-three-million-civil-servants-a7142921.html

[Colwyn]

A Turkish correspondent on BBC said yesterday that were 10,000 judges in Turkey and, of these, 3,000 have now been sacked. That's a huge proportion and it isn't clear how the judicial system is going to work in the near future.

[Colwyn]

I just heard a very interesting interview with Edward Luttwak; the author of Coup d'Etat: A Practical Handbook (1968). His view of the recent events in Turkey is that Erdogan and pals had planned a purge of Gulenists in the military and judiciary. A list of thousands was already drawn up and was to have enacted at dawn on Saturday. However, the information was leaked to some of the people on the list and a coup was hastily arranged. This could explain (i) why the coup was so badly organized and (ii) how the Government were able to target those to be sacked and arrested so rapidly. It makes quite a bit of sense to me and I consider it worth thinking about.

[philrose]

This is quite interesting....
http://www.yellali.com/news/article/300/what-is-happening-in-turkey

[JohnF]

However, the information was leaked to some of the people on the list and a coup was hastily arranged. This could explain (i) why the coup was so badly organized and (ii) how the Government were able to target those to be sacked and arrested so rapidly.

Colwyn, as far as I'm aware there was no "leak" as such, it was common knowledge within the Military that the majority, if not all, of those suspected to have links to the Gulen organisation were either going to be sidelined, retired or sacked as part of the annual review system during this coming August.  As far as I'm aware there were to be no arrests, just a very precise removal of those the government felt to be untrustworthy - mass arrests would have damaged moral within the military, even amongst those considered to be loyal to the regime.

What is starting to become clear is that MiT were well aware of the unrest within certain areas of the military and this raises the question "did MiT actively encourage the plotters?".  I don't think I'm the only one who thinks they know the answer to that one!

There is so much information flying about that it's difficult to separate the lies and gossip from the truth - in fact I'm not so sure the "the truth" will see the light of day for a very long time.

This is quite interesting....
http://www.yellali.com/news/article/300/what-is-happening-in-turkey

Yes, you're right - it is interesting.  Bet there's not many Erdogan opponents making up the total from street interviews...

JF

[c1]

An image of all those journists going to prison, puts a new meaning into "writers block" also of note as  I think bojo's grand father himself a journist was murdered outside of a police station by an agry mob, many moons ago.

[stoop]

https://www.rt.com/news/351995-wikileaks-attack-turkey-documents/

[stoop]

Now teaching staff are purged!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36838347?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central%3FSThisFB

[Colwyn]

This includes 1,500 University Deans. Turkey has 180 universities so that averages out at over 8 Deans per university. If we take the local Mugla University and the very large Istanbul University as examples they have 18 and 17 faculties respectively and that translates into 18/17 deans.  So taking out 8 deans is over a third of senior university staff purged as the average trend. A serious hole in higher education.