another abduction attempt

[stoop]

quote:Originally posted by Clioman2

quote:Originally posted by stoop

I think we all need to focus on the fact that most of these attacks occur late at night/early morning. It would be sensible to make sure you get home via taxi if you have far to walk and especially if you are a lone woman - just as you would in the UK.

Yes it's bad and needs to be sorted soon but we must all remember that just because we are on holiday crime does not take a break.

come on stoop, this needs sorting NOW. Look at how far back all these threads go(not just this one) and soon is just not good enough. The same car and the same people are still at large! Have the Mayor or Police read all these posts and seen what Brits are saying or would they be happy to see all the GB pounds go elsewhere?
Let's face it, if these attempts develop into a real abduction etc. then I for one would ensure maximum publicity in the UK as the authorities in Calis have had plenty of time and opportunities to put a stop to this. If they are not going to even try to keep us safe then they deserve to lose us and our money!

All I am advocating is that people try and stay safe by taking simple precautions - as they would in the UK at 3am in the morning.

Yes it needs sorting - I am quite aware of that.

[stoop]

Good post twin bea but I can't help wondering how the hell 'positive thinking' is going to help.

We all need to calm down and make sure every incident is logged and reported to the police and whoever else we think can help.

There has been an interesting report in the York Press tonight about a Church Group who are going to walk the streets of York late at night to make sure any vulnerable/at risk people get home safely. Things like walking single females to taxi ranks or bus stops and making sure they are safe. Helping those who have had a little too much to drink or have been a victim of drunken behaviour.

Evidently this has been tried in 80 cities and the crime rate late at night has dropped substantially.

I'm not saying this should be set up in Calis just trying to show that even little old safe York needs this type of initiative to make the streets safe. It might not be a bad idea though.

http://www.thepress.co.uk/news/4490616.Street_Angels_to_patrol_York_city_centre_at_night_helping_people_in_need/

[tinkerman]

This a copy of the email I recieved from the father of one of the couple who were attacked last weekend after I sent them a copy of the photo of that man who we suspect is one of the two men involved.

Hi Andy.

Thanks for what your'e doing to clear up this mess. My daughter has seen the photo but she only got a quick look at the guy. It was the older one who did the car ramming and got out to do the grabbing.
What she has said is that the features, hair length and style, stubble, build and general appearance is the same, but she couldn't definately say it was him. If she were to compile a photofit it certainly wouldn't look a lot different.

I questioned both of the girls thoroughly that morning and they didn't get either the make or plate number of the car. Just that it was old and either white or cream.

With that little info and with it then being what we thought was a one off incident we didn't go to the Police. In retrospect, with the events that have followed i wish we had.

A further reason we didn't go was that 2 years ago i was burgled in Calis and i spent 3 hours at the Police Station with an officer who spoke no English, and neither did any of the other officers. After the interview the officer produced a 30cm Bowie type hunting knife from a desk drawer and said," get yourself one of these, no problem".
To be honest, i couldn't see that spending another night down at the Police Station was going to be of great help after that.

While in Calis this time i did tell both of the girls and any other girls i met to get a Taxi at present. Carry a mobile at all times and call 155 immediately any car draws up and don't wait to see why. Definately don't respond to the occupants in any way at all. Then go to the nearest possible door to bang on it. Announce "Hello Police" as loudly as possible on the mobile, even if they haven't answered the call yet. Only as a last resort, take a photo. This could encourage them to steal the mobile.
I also advised my friend, the owner of the Club E Hotel
to advise all of his guests of the present situation. This he has done, and is still doing. As a man of some status in the area, he is also making his own enquiries with various officials as to what they are doing.
I wouldn't want people to be paranoid on their holidays, but being streetwise and prepared in any Country is a must for anybody.

Thanks again Andy and everybody involved in stopping these unheard of events in a beautiful and friendly place.

Please keep me informed.

Kind Regards
Graham.

I have wished them well and both girls are fine

Tinx

[Old Daffodil]

A neighbourhood watch scheme is not a bad idea either. Just being observant of who and what is in your own neighbourhood could help matters. Things like taking note of car registrations, watching who is visiting the area and generally looking out for each other. With mobile phones you can easily take a picture of a situation which you consider suspicious. I do not think this is illegal.

[Twin Bee]

Thanks Stoop - by positive thinking I mean focussing on solutions and not blaming the Authorities. The trouble with negative thinking is that it gets destructive and that will not help anyone. In time we shall find the Turkish neighbourhood including the local business community will be on our side and hopefully these incidents will stop.

I have another question; when using an English mobile in Turkey to phone the emergency services do you need to include the international dialing code as well?

[KKOB]

quote:Originally posted by Twin Bee

I have another question; when using an English mobile in Turkey to phone the emergency services do you need to include the international dialing code as well?

No, you don't.

[suzi Q]

Tinx please can you keep us informed of any progress no matter how small. we all feel very unsettled about this situation as many of us are coming to calis for the summer and bringing young families and friends. We all appreciate what you and your fellow residents are doing and hope that these perverts get whats coming to them. good luck. thanks suz

[laffa]

I know its only a few days, but a relief that no more has been bought to our attention,

[june]

Me too Maureen..

[Twin Bee]

quote:Originally posted by suzi Q

Tinx please can you keep us informed of any progress no matter how small....

My personal view is that drip feeding members with every little bit of news is probably not the best approach. Better we are informed of any significant developments as they arise but other smaller matters might be best shared say in a newsround every couple of weeks or so or  not shared if the information may make people worry when there is no substance to it or i s hearsay rather than fact.  
...I am only trying to help