No Smoking

[cheers]

As a smoker I understand the valid points raised, but if nobody drank or smoked how much money would countries lose from the revenue?
I always respect the no smoking bans and always when in rome do as the romans do - so if that means smoking in the snow, rain, wind etc. thats fine by me and well mannered people will always do the same!!

[davidzz]

quote:Originally posted by cheers

but if nobody drank or smoked how much money would countries lose from the revenue?

I wouldn't be to concerned about that, as finance and treasury ministers of most countries set targets for the revenue and then look at ways it can be raised through different methods of taxation.
Countries will not lose revenue as they have the facility to recoup it from elsewhere.

David

[Lynn Hurst]

Both myself and my O/H are smokers, we have never smoked inside restaurants or where people are eating anyway! It seems really strange now when we go abroad and people are smoking in public places.[]. We have certainly saved some money since the smoking ban came in especially this winter its been to cold, snowy or slippy to go out for a drink never mind a fag ! Our local bingo hall has closed down, also a few pubs in the area, I don't know if its  anything to do with the smoking ban. (I only want 2 numbers give us a ciggie:D). Lynn

[Bluwise]

quote:Originally posted by Lynn Hurst

Both myself and my O/H are smokers, we have never smoked inside restaurants or where people are eating anyway! It seems really strange now when we go abroad and people are smoking in public places.[]. We have certainly saved some money since the smoking ban came in especially this winter its been to cold, snowy or slippy to go out for a drink never mind a fag ! Our local bingo hall has closed down, also a few pubs in the area, I don't know if its  anything to do with the smoking ban. (I only want 2 numbers give us a ciggie:D). Lynn

I think it has a lot to do with the ban listening to my friends - (a drink and a cig go together) and its such a shame a choice for venues to be either smoke free or smoking allowed wasn't given after all.  It reads as though Turkey isn't providing a choice either - outside or nothing!  Are the bars/restaurants trying to cater for smokers too outside with heaters etc?

[Scunner]

In fairness if there was a demand for smoke free bars in the UK or Turkey, the free market would have provided them. Just as Wetherspoons did with music free bars. Nobody thought it a great enough idea to actually do it.

[laffa]

I forgot all about the smoking ban in Turkey, but agree alot more people are staying in because of it, I know since our local closed alot of our friends dont go out much, but the pub we go in now, come 11pm it ashtrays and ciggies on the table,

[farmer]

Yes Davidzz, Countries will always seek new ways of raising revenues.
I have heard that the Department of Trade and Industry ( DTI ) have calculated they could raise the same annual sum as now raised on both Direct and Indirect taxes on Tobacco products, should the use of Tobacco in the U.K be totally banned, in their words " quite painlessly".

They propose simply  to put a charge on posts to the Internet, at roughly £4.50 for a pack of twenty posts.

And if you regularly make posts on the internet and your computer goes wrong, your " Free Service Guarantee " will be null and void and you will have to pay for a private service to get it fixed!

Protection from the effects of reading posts from regular posters ( "Passive Posting" ) will be dealt with by isolating posts from regular " posters " to ares not serviced by the internet.:D

Regards

Farmer

[Bluwise]

quote:Originally posted by Scunner

In fairness if there was a demand for smoke free bars in the UK or Turkey, the free market would have provided them. Just as Wetherspoons did with music free bars. Nobody thought it a great enough idea to actually do it.

That's very true Scunner - the whole business was a done deal before anyone was consulted.  I agree there should be some smoke free establishments for those that want them but fail to understand why the same choice isn't given to those that do want to smoke?
I have read about the Pub landlord who was given a 6 month jail sentence for not paying his fines (having allowed people to smoke in his pub whilst advising them they were breaking the law and providing leaflets on every table about the support available to give up!) Public opinion was such that his fine was donated and he was released after 11 days. We have a crafty Goverment that makes landlords and bar owners the big time losers if they allow their customers any choice - or don't prevent their customers breaking the law!

[Bluwise]

quote:Originally posted by laffa

I forgot all about the smoking ban in Turkey, but agree alot more people are staying in because of it, I know since our local closed alot of our friends dont go out much, but the pub we go in now, come 11pm it ashtrays and ciggies on the table,

Do the non/anti smokers stay behind for this "lock-in" too?

[Highlander]

Perhaps in these days of poilitical correctness, someone should bring a case that their human rights are being violated by the smoking ban denying them the pleasure they derive from cigarettes.